Comments on: Going Green with Gasoline: E10 and Us http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/2009/11/08/going-green-with-gasoline-e10-and-us/ Random Thoughts from an Overloaded Mind Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:29:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: saf http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/2009/11/08/going-green-with-gasoline-e10-and-us/comment-page-1/#comment-94 saf Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:25:23 +0000 http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/?p=364#comment-94 BettyB, I would be very happy if you did start this petition.I have written to almost every body about this including the Public defender and have hardly gotten a response.I am not sure why the authorities are in such haste to force us to use E10. In Europe for example it is being phased in,with 2013 being a tentative date for its full implementation. http://www.lowcvp.org.uk/news/1074/bulletin/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/5795480/British-tourists-warned-over-damaging-French-fuel.html saf. BettyB,

I would be very happy if you did start this petition.I have written to almost every body about this including the Public defender and have hardly gotten a response.I am not sure why the authorities are in such haste to force us to use E10. In Europe for example it is being phased in,with 2013 being a tentative date for its full implementation.

http://www.lowcvp.org.uk/news/1074/bulletin/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/5795480/British-tourists-warned-over-damaging-French-fuel.html

saf.

]]> By: BettyB http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/2009/11/08/going-green-with-gasoline-e10-and-us/comment-page-1/#comment-67 BettyB Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:12:53 +0000 http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/?p=364#comment-67 Thanks so much for the additional information. I have used Australia as a reference as they, like us, drive on the left and the Japanese imports to both countries, as well as New Zealand, are mostly the same. However, the "deportees" are a mix of these cars and second hand domestic Japanese models. No expert has done a Jamaica specific list and the Australian and New Zealand references are closer than US and European. I am seriously thinking about starting an online petition of people with cars which have the potential for damage, as well as owners of motorcycles, boats, etc. Thanks so much for the additional information. I have used Australia as a reference as they, like us, drive on the left and the Japanese imports to both countries, as well as New Zealand, are mostly the same. However, the “deportees” are a mix of these cars and second hand domestic Japanese models. No expert has done a Jamaica specific list and the Australian and New Zealand references are closer than US and European. I am seriously thinking about starting an online petition of people with cars which have the potential for damage, as well as owners of motorcycles, boats, etc.

]]> By: saf http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/2009/11/08/going-green-with-gasoline-e10-and-us/comment-page-1/#comment-65 saf Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:01:10 +0000 http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/?p=364#comment-65 Be careful about the information being banded about.It is not true that most cars made after 1986 can use E10 safely.The information from an Australian site is also misleading.The site is referring to vehicles manufactured in Australia for that market and vehicles manufactured overseas for export to Australia.It does not speak to the Japanese Domestic Vehicles which are in the majority in Jamaica.Many of them are only able to safely use E3 as this is the blend available in Japan.Toyota New Zealand gives a good indication of the export vehicles and domestic vehicles which are able to use various ethanol blends.Here is the link: http://www.toyota.co.nz/AboutUs/Corporate+Profile/Biofuels+FAQs.htm Be careful about the information being banded about.It is not true that most cars made after 1986 can use E10 safely.The information from an Australian site is also misleading.The site is referring to vehicles manufactured in Australia for that market and vehicles manufactured overseas for export to Australia.It does not speak to the Japanese Domestic Vehicles which are in the majority in Jamaica.Many of them are only able to safely use E3 as this is the blend available in Japan.Toyota New Zealand gives a good indication of the export vehicles and domestic vehicles which are able to use various ethanol blends.Here is the link:

http://www.toyota.co.nz/AboutUs/Corporate+Profile/Biofuels+FAQs.htm

]]> By: BettyB http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/2009/11/08/going-green-with-gasoline-e10-and-us/comment-page-1/#comment-57 BettyB Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:27:38 +0000 http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/?p=364#comment-57 It is nothing to do with law. What has happened is that the local refinery now produces only E10 and no other type of petrol is available in local gas stations as of last week. It is nothing to do with law. What has happened is that the local refinery now produces only E10 and no other type of petrol is available in local gas stations as of last week.

]]> By: Jamaicafest http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/2009/11/08/going-green-with-gasoline-e10-and-us/comment-page-1/#comment-55 Jamaicafest Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:08:26 +0000 http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/?p=364#comment-55 Thanks for this valuable information. Our policy makers clearly introduced E10 without proper research. Thanks for this valuable information. Our policy makers clearly introduced E10 without proper research.

]]> By: Fuel-Testers http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/2009/11/08/going-green-with-gasoline-e10-and-us/comment-page-1/#comment-54 Fuel-Testers Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:08:04 +0000 http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/?p=364#comment-54 The reality is that most who have experienced problems with E10 is solely because the gas was contaminated at time of purchase (E.G. Over-blending above 10% or water contamination). This is completely avoidable by visualizing and testing gas at time of purchase. For engines not designed for ethanol blends (E.G. marine and/or when prolonged storage necessary) many stations in the U.S. have started offering what they call "Recreational Fuel" without ethanol. As for the limited number of engines that forbid use of gas with ethanol (check your owners manual and warranty statement) this certainly would justify a class action lawsuit if it is "completely impossible" to purchase non-ethanol fuel anywhere. Do the laws in Jamaica actually forbid sale of non-ethanol gas or has it just become harder to find it? The reality is that most who have experienced problems with E10 is solely because the gas was contaminated at time of purchase (E.G. Over-blending above 10% or water contamination). This is completely avoidable by visualizing and testing gas at time of purchase. For engines not designed for ethanol blends (E.G. marine and/or when prolonged storage necessary) many stations in the U.S. have started offering what they call “Recreational Fuel” without ethanol. As for the limited number of engines that forbid use of gas with ethanol (check your owners manual and warranty statement) this certainly would justify a class action lawsuit if it is “completely impossible” to purchase non-ethanol fuel anywhere. Do the laws in Jamaica actually forbid sale of non-ethanol gas or has it just become harder to find it?

]]> By: Richard Black http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/2009/11/08/going-green-with-gasoline-e10-and-us/comment-page-1/#comment-50 Richard Black Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:23:30 +0000 http://blog.jamaica-allspice.com/?p=364#comment-50 Good post as always, Betty. The debate over the Govt's. decision to produce only E10 is now really heating up. In my opinion, I believe that this Government has demonstrated gross irresponsibility and shown a total disregard to the overwhelming majority of vehicle owners in Jamaica, whose vehicles fall into the category which cannot use E10 without damage and consequent additional expense. As you know, our vehicle cannot use E10 and after filling up once with it, we are now seeing some signs of engine problems. I believe that all Jamaican motorists whose vehicles have started to develop problems after using the gas, should join together in a suit against the GoJ for this nonsense. I know that I intend to do just that (even if I lose), should I have serious problems with my engine. Richard. Good post as always, Betty. The debate over the Govt’s. decision to produce only E10 is now really heating up. In my opinion, I believe that this Government has demonstrated gross irresponsibility and shown a total disregard to the overwhelming majority of vehicle owners in Jamaica, whose vehicles fall into the category which cannot use E10 without damage and consequent additional expense.

As you know, our vehicle cannot use E10 and after filling up once with it, we are now seeing some signs of engine problems. I believe that all Jamaican motorists whose vehicles have started to develop problems after using the gas, should join together in a suit against the GoJ for this nonsense. I know that I intend to do just that (even if I lose), should I have serious problems with my engine.

Richard.

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